.--------------------------------------------------------------------. | Konversationen startade: den 12 november 2004 | | Deltagare: | | jonas [ home ] (jonaswadsten@hotmail.com) | | zmajchek (tihana2004@hotmail.com) | .--------------------------------------------------------------------. [23:14:41] jonas [ home: hey.. TIhana... are u there? ;) [23:14:51] zmajchek: hey [23:15:21] jonas [ home: i saw the meeting report... [23:15:31] zmajchek: with Igor? [23:15:44] jonas [ home: no good with making this client for the database server... [23:15:49] jonas [ home: yes with Igor... [23:16:08] zmajchek: I hmm, what's the problem [23:16:40] jonas [ home: more work... ;) i got an MySQL database we can use... is it possible to use that one instead of yours? [23:17:19] zmajchek: Well, he doest'n like that idea, though it is possible [23:17:42] zmajchek: He explicitly said postgres :) [23:17:52] zmajchek: And wasn't satisfed [23:18:08] zmajchek: when we tried to get him to [23:18:18] jonas [ home: ok.. [23:18:23] zmajchek: use mySQL [23:18:49] jonas [ home: but that is probably becouse of installing and everything.... [23:18:58] zmajchek: no [23:19:16] zmajchek: there is mySQL insalled on the server [23:19:29] zmajchek: he just dont want us to use it [23:20:13] jonas [ home: hmmm.... strange... its make it so much harder for us... [23:20:21] jonas [ home: it is a lot of work anyway... [23:20:59] zmajchek: well I think it's isnt much work to transfer a database you already got to postgres [23:21:16] zmajchek: they all work sam way [23:21:21] zmajchek: *same [23:21:42] jonas [ home: no it is not that... ;) the problem is the client on the database server we have to build... [23:21:49] zmajchek: we have to anyway [23:21:56] jonas [ home: why? [23:21:56] zmajchek: it is a firewall problem [23:22:02] zmajchek: not a database problem [23:22:19] jonas [ home: yes.. but if we use another database? on another server? [23:22:31] zmajchek: on another server, maybe [23:22:41] zmajchek: but the point is to use that server [23:22:48] zmajchek: that's like no way [23:22:59] zmajchek: I can ask, but they will say no [23:23:05] jonas [ home: hmm.... [23:23:14] zmajchek: ask Rikard wat he thinks about that [23:23:16] zmajchek: anyhow [23:23:26] zmajchek: don't worry about that daemon [23:23:34] jonas [ home: i think about it.. i will read through the criteria and we will talk on monday about it... [23:23:41] jonas [ home: ;) [23:23:45] zmajchek: I made clear to Igor [23:23:54] zmajchek: we aren't good with Java [23:24:00] jonas [ home: good... [23:24:11] zmajchek: but it woulkd be a lot of work to write it in c [23:24:15] zmajchek: SO I thought [23:24:30] zmajchek: to go to Igor, see the last years version [23:24:33] jonas [ home: Irfan and Zahid are looking in to this client in java... Zahid knows some java... [23:24:44] jonas [ home: true.. [23:24:46] zmajchek: and get him to explain me quickly what I have to do [23:24:58] zmajchek: and what I have to change [23:25:09] zmajchek: so it will work with our database [23:25:17] jonas [ home: ok... so u think we can use last years java-client? [23:25:56] zmajchek: yes, it have to be modified so that it excepts our data, and send it to the our database [23:26:06] zmajchek: but that shouldn't be complicated [23:26:37] jonas [ home: ok.. we try with it.. otherwice skip it and use my MySQL... [23:26:57] jonas [ home: sorry for taling about this on your friday night by the way... [23:26:57] zmajchek: They wont let us to use another server [23:27:04] zmajchek: no problem [23:27:04] jonas [ home: ok.. [23:27:10] zmajchek: I'm gonna work anyway [23:27:13] zmajchek: :D [23:27:21] jonas [ home: ;) ok... [23:27:45] zmajchek: I shoud provide you with a development plan for the sourcodem by monday [23:27:50] zmajchek: is that ok with you [23:28:18] jonas [ home: that is fine... ;) [23:28:24] zmajchek: I have to figure out how we can make it be 90% finished by 16.december [23:28:45] jonas [ home: you are doing a really good job... all of us... [23:28:53] jonas [ home: yes... i understand... [23:28:54] zmajchek: Thanx [23:29:03] jonas [ home: [23:29:12] zmajchek: Everybody in croatia were impressed with the presentation too [23:29:23] jonas [ home: thanks... [23:30:09] zmajchek: So now we have to live up to the expectations [23:30:15] jonas [ home: yes.. i hope it is possible with the 16th dec... [23:30:37] jonas [ home: hahaha.... :) i think we will... it feels good to work with u all... [23:31:00] zmajchek: Yes I find it very... realistic too [23:31:12] jonas [ home: good... [23:32:37] zmajchek: Did you look at the UI suggestion i made? [23:33:05] jonas [ home: yes i did... i liked it... i will have closer look on sunday... [23:33:23] zmajchek: ok, thnx [23:33:35] zmajchek: And did you meet today [23:34:09] jonas [ home: yes.. irfan and zahid and me... we had a talk about this java-program and database... [23:34:25] jonas [ home: i will get an file from irfan about the database... [23:34:51] zmajchek: ok, just mail it to me... [23:35:14] jonas [ home: yes we will... :) [23:35:15] zmajchek: I gave Marko a book, he should read regarding testing [23:35:28] jonas [ home: yes he told me that... he will summon it up for us... [23:36:03] jonas [ home: which is good for all of us... like me i am not familiar with software testing before this... [23:36:48] zmajchek: Hmm, I did the presentation for the class [23:36:54] zmajchek: About testing [23:37:03] jonas [ home: ok... good... [23:37:16] jonas [ home: so you are the testing master too... [23:37:23] zmajchek: You didnt see it beacuse your course did not start yet [23:37:29] zmajchek: no [23:37:48] jonas [ home: ok... so you had a head start of us in this course? [23:37:57] zmajchek: I just knew what book it is in, and had read it for the first time before few weeks [23:38:09] jonas [ home: ok... [23:38:14] zmajchek: We have 2 semesters/year system [23:38:31] zmajchek: our semester starts around 1.october [23:38:38] jonas [ home: ok.. [23:39:00] zmajchek: we didnt discuss the projects just some general issues regarding software engineering [23:39:17] jonas [ home: we have 2 semesters: sept-jan + jan-june [23:39:25] jonas [ home: ok... intresting [23:39:40] jonas [ home: and every semester are devided in to 2 periods... [23:39:58] jonas [ home: sep-jan: period 1 + period 2 [23:40:06] zmajchek: I see [23:40:09] jonas [ home: so this started in period 2 of our semester [23:40:22] jonas [ home: period 2: nov-jan [23:42:10] zmajchek: we have exams whole september, part of January and part of february, one week in april, and half of june till half of july [23:42:55] jonas [ home: ok... very different from us... [23:42:59] jonas [ home: ;) [23:43:02] zmajchek: we have one week for christmas free, and one month in summer [23:43:23] zmajchek: It is different in different countries [23:43:31] zmajchek: so I hvae a question for you [23:43:34] zmajchek: :) [23:43:42] zmajchek: you board, right [23:43:56] jonas [ home: yes i do... ;) [23:43:58] jonas [ home: and u? [23:44:26] zmajchek: I ski, I tried to board, but I'm too good in ski, so I'm lousy in boarding [23:44:33] zmajchek: my teacher once said [23:44:49] zmajchek: Hey, we don't learn salto here, just curves [23:44:53] zmajchek: :D [23:44:59] jonas [ home: hahaha... :) [23:44:59] zmajchek: So I got back to skiing [23:45:07] jonas [ home: fare enough... [23:45:18] jonas [ home: everyone doesnt like snowboarding... [23:45:23] zmajchek: I like to ski in the woods and deep snow so it's fun too [23:45:27] jonas [ home: i just love it... [23:45:43] zmajchek: It's not that I dont love it [23:45:49] jonas [ home: it is even more fun (when u know how to) to do it on a snowboard... [23:45:49] zmajchek: I just cant handle it [23:45:57] jonas [ home: just need to practice... [23:46:09] zmajchek: You have to know how wit ski too :D [23:46:16] jonas [ home: :) i know... i have tought hundreds of people to board.. [23:46:23] zmajchek: But thats not what I wanted to ask [23:46:32] zmajchek: Where do you board? [23:46:34] jonas [ home: hehe.. ok shoot.. [23:47:25] jonas [ home: while u ask: i started skiing when i was 4... stopped when i was 14.... from 14 to now... 18 years... snowboarding... [23:48:02] jonas [ home: i do it in sweden most times... but i have been snowboarding in france, austria, australia... [23:48:13] jonas [ home: and norway... :) [23:48:22] jonas [ home: and u? where do u go skiing? [23:48:42] zmajchek: So is there like a good skiing/boarding place near Stockholm? [23:48:59] jonas [ home: sort of... [23:49:07] zmajchek: I ski in Austria, Slovenia and here when there is snow :) [23:49:26] zmajchek: there should be though, at least artificial snow this year [23:50:12] zmajchek: since there organiziong Ski cup race for woman here on a hill next to Zagreb [23:50:25] zmajchek: so I'm hoping I coud get more this year :D [23:50:43] zmajchek: what do you mean by sort of? [23:51:47] jonas [ home: hehe... if there are snow... ;) [23:52:05] jonas [ home: but... it takes 10 minutes in skilift an 1 minute down... [23:52:18] jonas [ home: = they are small hills... arround stockholm anyway... [23:52:37] jonas [ home: you can go up north in sweden a get some really good skiing... [23:52:57] zmajchek: hmm, this one, next to Zagreb is cca 1300m high, so pretty low [23:53:18] zmajchek: but Main problem is that it is usually crowded [23:53:19] jonas [ home: hehe.. that big in sweden... :) [23:53:30] jonas [ home: yes like arround stockholm when snow.. [23:54:45] zmajchek: hmm yes [23:54:53] zmajchek: it is 1030m [23:54:56] zmajchek: sory [23:55:10] zmajchek: i switched because i type fast [23:55:11] jonas [ home: the ones arround stockholm are like 100-150 m high... or low... ;) [23:55:24] jonas [ home: hehe... i know.. i do too.... [23:56:30] zmajchek: So how long it takes to the earest higher hill? [23:56:46] zmajchek: earest=nearest [23:56:50] jonas [ home: 3-4 hrs... [23:57:19] jonas [ home: 8-12 hrs for the best skislopes... [23:57:27] zmajchek: uff [23:57:38] zmajchek: that's long [23:57:49] jonas [ home: yes i know... the swedish mountains are really old... [23:57:58] zmajchek: We take 4hrs to Austria [23:58:11] jonas [ home: and the got teared down by the inlandice thousands of years ago... [23:58:19] zmajchek: Sweden is a large country [23:58:32] jonas [ home: thats good.. i wish i had those distances to the alps... ;) [23:58:35] jonas [ home: yes it is... [23:58:41] jonas [ home: it is very tall... [23:59:53] jonas [ home: you are lucke to be so close to good skiing... i am very jellouse.. [00:00:10] zmajchek: I like it here, I have 4hrs to alps, and 2,5 hrs to the house we own on an Island, and if you drive for 12hrs, Most pobably you got out of the country, though I think it is possiblem because of its shape [00:00:53] zmajchek: don't be jealous, everything has its drawbacks [00:01:04] jonas [ home: yes.. true... [00:01:59] zmajchek: like for example our political system [00:02:02] zmajchek: :D [00:02:27] jonas [ home: yes.... but it is always greener on the other side of hte fence... ;) [00:02:30] zmajchek: how many political parties there are in sweden? [00:02:42] jonas [ home: 7 or 9.... i dont know... :) [00:02:49] jonas [ home: 6 big ones.. [00:03:07] zmajchek: here? nobody knows the real number, it changes day to day [00:03:13] jonas [ home: and croatia? [00:03:16] jonas [ home: ok [00:03:20] zmajchek: But aroun 80 i thimk [00:03:23] zmajchek: think [00:03:39] jonas [ home: oh shit... wow.... thats a lot [00:03:40] zmajchek: We have a saying: [00:03:57] zmajchek: "Two croats make three parties" [00:04:02] zmajchek: :D [00:04:17] jonas [ home: hehe... [00:04:22] zmajchek: Most of them are small [00:04:30] zmajchek: but then the large ones [00:04:38] zmajchek: when they grow too large [00:04:50] zmajchek: they usualy split into two or three [00:04:52] zmajchek: and so on [00:05:25] zmajchek: :D [00:05:43] jonas [ home: hehe... a never ending story... [00:05:49] zmajchek: true, true [00:06:14] zmajchek: So perhaps we will meet one day on some hill covered with snow [00:06:30] zmajchek: Now I think I should go back to work [00:07:06] jonas [ home: yes maybe... why not.. you never know... [00:07:20] jonas [ home: yes i need to continue here... thanks for chatting... :) [00:07:26] zmajchek: np [00:07:40] zmajchek: anytime, it keeps the spirit high [00:07:52] zmajchek: too bad we can't all meet in person [00:08:06] jonas [ home: true... that would be good and fun... [00:08:11] zmajchek: so till next time... [00:08:14] zmajchek: bye [00:08:20] jonas [ home: yes.. till next ime... [00:08:21] jonas [ home: bye